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	<title>Comments on: AGBT: Sequencing Tech Lowdown</title>
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		<title>By: Pathogens: Genes and Genomes &#187; 3rd-generation Sequencing: A RISC-y Business</title>
		<link>http://www.genetic-inference.co.uk/blog/2010/02/agbt-sequencing-tech-lowdown/comment-page-1/#comment-4039</link>
		<dc:creator>Pathogens: Genes and Genomes &#187; 3rd-generation Sequencing: A RISC-y Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 16:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the year. Most of this was already known thanks to the reporting from bloggers like Dan Koboldt, Luke Jostins and Daniel Macarthur at the time, but the Nature article is sure to bring 3rd-generation to wider [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the year. Most of this was already known thanks to the reporting from bloggers like Dan Koboldt, Luke Jostins and Daniel Macarthur at the time, but the Nature article is sure to bring 3rd-generation to wider [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.genetic-inference.co.uk/blog/2010/02/agbt-sequencing-tech-lowdown/comment-page-1/#comment-2666</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lamprey

According to Life, the SOLiD 4hq will be able to produce a 30X (100Gb) human genome for $3,000 in reagents (they also claim SOLiD 4 can do it for $6000); this doesn&#039;t include library prep, but that is probably not very costly. If they can back this up with data (as the HiSeq has so far), then they will be able to push their price down below Illumina ($10k per genome, dropping to around $4k by the end of the year, though these include library prep)

Whether a) they can actually bring the price down as they say they can and b) this will be enough to persaude all the genome centers to completely change their pipelines to handle SOLiD machines and data, is still to be seen. I still can&#039;t really see it happening, but I am starting to realise that I was too dismissive of SOLiD in this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lamprey</p>
<p>According to Life, the SOLiD 4hq will be able to produce a 30X (100Gb) human genome for $3,000 in reagents (they also claim SOLiD 4 can do it for $6000); this doesn&#8217;t include library prep, but that is probably not very costly. If they can back this up with data (as the HiSeq has so far), then they will be able to push their price down below Illumina ($10k per genome, dropping to around $4k by the end of the year, though these include library prep)</p>
<p>Whether a) they can actually bring the price down as they say they can and b) this will be enough to persaude all the genome centers to completely change their pipelines to handle SOLiD machines and data, is still to be seen. I still can&#8217;t really see it happening, but I am starting to realise that I was too dismissive of SOLiD in this post.</p>
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		<title>By: lamprey</title>
		<link>http://www.genetic-inference.co.uk/blog/2010/02/agbt-sequencing-tech-lowdown/comment-page-1/#comment-2610</link>
		<dc:creator>lamprey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about running cost between HiSeq and SOLiD4hq?</description>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.genetic-inference.co.uk/blog/2010/02/agbt-sequencing-tech-lowdown/comment-page-1/#comment-2499</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah you&#039;re right, sorry about that.</description>
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		<title>By: blablabla</title>
		<link>http://www.genetic-inference.co.uk/blog/2010/02/agbt-sequencing-tech-lowdown/comment-page-1/#comment-2495</link>
		<dc:creator>blablabla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey was Panda sequenced by 454? Thought it was GAII.</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@NK and Neil Hall

You&#039;re right, I shouldn&#039;t dismiss the throughput of SOLiD, they do have some big improvements in the pipeline. However, I still don&#039;t see SOLiD making inroads into Illumina&#039;s dominance in sequencing centers.

Illumina claims yields of 200Gb in 8 days (25Gb/day) for the HiSeq, and SOLiD 4 claims 100Gb per run: they don&#039;t say how long this takes, but SOLiD 3+ takes 12-14 days, so we&#039;ll call it 8Gb per day.

Potential for growth: Illumina can raise its cluster density to that of the GAIIx with ease, bringing the throughput per day up to 43Gb/day. SOLiD will bring out the SOLiD 4 hq, which will produce 300Gb per run; assuming this doens&#039;t raise the runtime (a very big if), this will bring their throughput up to a maximum of 25Gb per day.

You also need to think about Illumina&#039;s massively longer read lengths (a maximum of twice the size now).

Not saying that SOLiD doens&#039;t have other advantages. I just can&#039;t really see SOLiD breaking Illumina&#039;s market dominance, when Illumina has so consistently widened the gap in throughput over the past year, and shows no signs of stopping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@NK and Neil Hall</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, I shouldn&#8217;t dismiss the throughput of SOLiD, they do have some big improvements in the pipeline. However, I still don&#8217;t see SOLiD making inroads into Illumina&#8217;s dominance in sequencing centers.</p>
<p>Illumina claims yields of 200Gb in 8 days (25Gb/day) for the HiSeq, and SOLiD 4 claims 100Gb per run: they don&#8217;t say how long this takes, but SOLiD 3+ takes 12-14 days, so we&#8217;ll call it 8Gb per day.</p>
<p>Potential for growth: Illumina can raise its cluster density to that of the GAIIx with ease, bringing the throughput per day up to 43Gb/day. SOLiD will bring out the SOLiD 4 hq, which will produce 300Gb per run; assuming this doens&#8217;t raise the runtime (a very big if), this will bring their throughput up to a maximum of 25Gb per day.</p>
<p>You also need to think about Illumina&#8217;s massively longer read lengths (a maximum of twice the size now).</p>
<p>Not saying that SOLiD doens&#8217;t have other advantages. I just can&#8217;t really see SOLiD breaking Illumina&#8217;s market dominance, when Illumina has so consistently widened the gap in throughput over the past year, and shows no signs of stopping.</p>
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		<title>By: Great Content from the Advances in Genome Biology and Technology &#124; Persistent Change</title>
		<link>http://www.genetic-inference.co.uk/blog/2010/02/agbt-sequencing-tech-lowdown/comment-page-1/#comment-2462</link>
		<dc:creator>Great Content from the Advances in Genome Biology and Technology &#124; Persistent Change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 06:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] full notes full notes (Anthony), or these great overviews of the technologies here (Daniel) and here [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] full notes full notes (Anthony), or these great overviews of the technologies here (Daniel) and here [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.genetic-inference.co.uk/blog/2010/02/agbt-sequencing-tech-lowdown/comment-page-1/#comment-2455</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 22:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the assumed dominance of illumina?.  SOLID has similar throughput at a lower price from the data i have seen. Can you you put some figures on this. ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the assumed dominance of illumina?.  SOLID has similar throughput at a lower price from the data i have seen. Can you you put some figures on this. ?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Bateman</title>
		<link>http://www.genetic-inference.co.uk/blog/2010/02/agbt-sequencing-tech-lowdown/comment-page-1/#comment-2445</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Bateman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to Blog this conference! Very useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to Blog this conference! Very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: abuzar hamza</title>
		<link>http://www.genetic-inference.co.uk/blog/2010/02/agbt-sequencing-tech-lowdown/comment-page-1/#comment-2442</link>
		<dc:creator>abuzar hamza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 08:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THAT WAS A REALLY A AMAZING INFORMATION</description>
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